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IRC Log for 2013-07-27

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[0:00] <Tamil1> lautriv: thats more than enough
[0:00] <Tamil1> lautriv: do you already have some data on the disk?
[0:01] <lautriv> no, could not get mount/start
[0:01] <lautriv> Tamil1, to be more precise, i talked about /usr/share/pyshared/ceph_deploy/osd.py line 319+
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[0:03] <Tamil1> lautriv: why dont you try to do "osd create" command on the disk with --zap-disk option, if you have nothing on the disk yet
[0:05] <lautriv> Tamil1, i tried all possibilities even create --zap-disk and it happens whenever it'll prepare it. GPT after zapping is proper and get's messy by prepare.
[0:08] <lautriv> Tamil1, i tried also each on its own and both on same line, zap/prepare/activate separate called, omit prepare and create my own partition ( that was the not prepared)
[0:09] <lautriv> Tamil1, maybe there is an undocumented switch to use old-style msdos label since it won't matter for 73G ?
[0:16] <lautriv> Tamil1, late night here, may i saw your nerves tomorrow again ?
[0:19] <Tamil1> sure
[0:19] <Tamil1> np
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[0:37] <loicd> alphe: hi. How did you fix the problem ? I'm curious :-)
[0:38] <alphe> yeah !
[0:38] <alphe> it was a reboot needed on the osd03
[0:38] <dmick> lautriv: tomorrow is Saturday :)
[0:38] <loicd> why rebooting osd3 fixed the problem ?
[0:39] <alphe> because it has /etc/hosts with loopback ip as his own definition
[0:39] <alphe> when I changed it it goes nuts
[0:40] <alphe> loicd see privmsg
[0:40] <alphe> so now that i have ceph cluster up running how do i mount it to my client ?
[0:41] <loicd> I thought you changed this ( osd03 == 127.0.1.1 => 20.10.10... ). You did not ?
[0:42] <alphe> i dit
[0:42] <alphe> i did
[0:42] <alphe> and when i did the resolv when wrong for some strange reason
[0:42] <alphe> that is why i got osd03 0.0.0.0/2
[0:43] <loicd> oh, well, the good thing is that it now works. It would be satisfying to know why exactly as opposed to a strange mysterious reason. But the world is full of mysteries ;-)
[0:43] <alphe> i can t explain more in details I rebooted and the problem was fixed
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[0:43] <loicd> I have work today though and won't be able to help. Thanks for letting me know that it works. It must feel good ;-)
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[0:44] <alphe> so now that my cluster is up and running how to i mount it to my client
[0:44] <alphe> i want a cephfs
[0:44] <alphe> so do i need to prepare a RBD ?
[0:44] <alphe> rados block device ?
[0:44] <alphe> or can I mount it directly ?
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[0:48] <Tamil1> alphe: http://ceph.com/docs/master/cephfs/fuse/
[0:48] <alphe> tamili ok
[0:48] <alphe> /etc/ceph/ceph.keyring
[0:48] <Tamil1> alphe: its just Tamil, no need for an i in the end :)
[0:48] <alphe> this is my probleme with that doc tamili
[0:49] <alphe> I used ceph-deploy so I don t see a ceph.keyring
[0:49] <alphe> I have ceph.mon.keyring ceph.client.admin.keyring etc...
[0:49] <alphe> ceph.bootstrap-mds.keyring ceph.bootstrap-mon.keyring
[0:49] <Tamil1> alphe: use admin command in ceph-deploy to copy the conf file and keyring file to remote client
[0:49] <alphe> but a ceph.keyring ... no
[0:50] <Tamil1> alphe: thats ok, use ceph.client.admin.keyring
[0:50] <alphe> ok I have to do it from the remote (client) or from the same ?
[0:51] <Tamil1> alphe: if you are going to use admin command, do it from your admin node. "./ceph-deploy admin <client_hostname>"
[0:51] <alphe> ok thank you tamili it was crystal clear explaination
[0:52] <alphe> i have some setups to do in my local dns and i will try that right away
[0:53] <Tamil1> alphe: sure
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[1:19] <ntranger> hey, Sage, you still around?
[1:21] <dmick> (03:48:49 PM) Tamil1: alphe: its just Tamil, no need for an i in the end :) (03:48:54 PM) alphe: this is my probleme with that doc tamili
[1:21] <alphe> ?
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[1:21] <alphe> oh ...
[1:22] <alphe> ok sorry my font are messed up
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[1:22] <ntranger> I got all the drives prepped, and I just got to activate the first one, and its been sitting here for probably 10 minutes, and hasn't done anything yet. Is this normal for it to hang this long?
[1:22] <dmick> a comma looks like an i?
[1:23] <alphe> yeah reading fast
[1:23] <alphe> 1 = a big i
[1:24] <dmick> what I meant was you missed that entire message from Tamil. When you're asking for help here, you should read and understand whatever someone types to you.
[1:26] <dmick> sagewk: wip-ceph-ids
[1:27] <alphe> dmick ... hum understanding isnt the same as reading in fact ...
[1:27] <dmick> didn't say it was.
[1:27] <alphe> i didn t messed Tamil1
[1:27] <alphe> messages
[1:28] <sagewk> ntranger: shouldn't take that long
[1:28] <ntranger> Thanks. I didn't figure it should either, but I wanted to make sure. :)
[1:28] <alphe> and previor of that i rode the docs stipulating a /etc/ceph/ceph.keyring file that i don t have
[1:29] <alphe> and thanks to Tamil1's efforts i know know that i have to use ceph-deploy admin to remotly configure the remote cliente that will connect to my ceph cluster
[1:31] <sagewk> dmick: testing, thanks
[1:31] <Tamil1> alphe: how is it going?
[1:32] <alphe> Tamil1 almost done I am kinda tired after 15 hours of work ...
[1:32] <alphe> but it is soon ok
[1:33] <alphe> ok conf and key pushed
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[1:34] <Tamil1> alphe: kool
[1:34] <alphe> now I can mount.ceph right ?
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[1:35] <Tamil1> alphe: yes.mount cephfs as fuse, http://ceph.com/docs/master/cephfs/fuse/
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[1:37] <alphe> ok working
[1:42] <alphe> probably the wrapper mount.ceph is for another purpose like mounting RBD
[1:42] <alphe> the client starting takes some seconds that is normal if I remember well
[1:42] <alphe> arg the ip was wrong in my command now it is ok
[1:42] <alphe> thanks
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[1:42] <alphe> ceph-fuse 37T 764M 37T 1% /mnt/ceph
[1:42] <alphe> woot for me and woot for the tchat !!!
[1:42] <alphe> thank you very much for your kind help
[1:42] <alphe> have a good evening !
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[2:00] <ntranger> Sage, I rebooted the server then activated the disks and they took really quick. I just rebooted, and did a ceph health check, and I'm getting this warning
[2:00] <ntranger> HEALTH_WARN 19 pgs degraded; 192 pgs stuck unclean; recovery 3/42 degraded (7.143%)
[2:00] <ntranger> I remember when I was testing the older version, sometimes I would get health warnings, and they would recover, but this one is stuck at 7.143
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[2:07] <ntranger> also, should the OSD information be in the ceph.conf file? It's not in mine.
[2:08] <dmick> ntranger: it doesn't need to be in ceph.conf; the startup scripts look at /var/lib/ceph etc.
[2:08] <dmick> what does ceph osd tree look like?
[2:09] <sagewk> ntranger: my guess: you only have 1 host, and by default crush wants to replicate across hosts.
[2:10] <ntranger> I was kind of wondering that. I don't have the second host up yet, I was wanting to make sure I got everything up on this one first.
[2:10] <ntranger> dmick, noob question, but where would I find that?
[2:12] <Tamil1> ntranger: have you set "osd crush chooseleaf type = 0" in ceph.conf?
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[2:13] <ntranger> Tamil1: I have not.
[2:14] <Tamil1> ntranger: you should set that if you are using only one node for your cluster.
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[2:15] <Tamil1> ntranger: http://ceph.com/docs/master/start/quick-ceph-deploy/
[2:16] <ntranger> thank you. :)
[2:16] <Tamil1> ntranger: if you had did that, the default replication factor would be turned off
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[2:53] <dmick> ntranger: sorry; ceph osd tree is a command
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[2:58] <ntranger> ah, good enough. :)
[2:58] <ntranger> # id weight type name up/down reweight
[2:58] <ntranger> -1 21.84 root default
[2:58] <ntranger> -2 21.84 host ceph01
[2:58] <ntranger> 0 1.82 osd.0 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 1 1.82 osd.1 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 2 1.82 osd.2 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 3 1.82 osd.3 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 4 1.82 osd.4 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 5 1.82 osd.5 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 6 1.82 osd.6 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 7 1.82 osd.7 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 8 1.82 osd.8 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 9 1.82 osd.9 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 10 1.82 osd.10 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> 11 1.82 osd.11 up 1
[2:58] <ntranger> oops. sorry for the garbage characters
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[2:59] <dmick> please do multiline command output to a pastebin, not to the channel
[2:59] <dmick> but
[2:59] <ntranger> sure thing, sorry about that
[2:59] <dmick> yeah, that shows all the OSDs up, but if they're all on the same host, you'll need the conf setting, probably
[3:00] <dmick> did you try that and did it fix the stuck pgs?
[3:01] <ntranger> the conf didn't actually have that in it, but I added it, and restarted the server, and it came back up with the same errors
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[3:06] <dmick> hm
[3:07] <dmick> and they're not changing?
[3:07] <ntranger> negative. warnings are staying the exact same
[3:08] <dmick> you probably want to read http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-pg/ then and see what state the troublesome pgs are in
[3:09] <ntranger> looking at it now. I really appreciate all you're guys assistance.
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[3:16] <jakes> I wish to know the stability of 0.61.7
[3:17] <ntranger> I ran ceph health detailed and all of the issues that pop up say this, "is stuck unclean since forever, current state active+remapped"
[3:18] <jakes> i ran into issues on restart of the cluster with 0.61.7
[3:21] <dmick> ntranger: some of the pg query stuff could be interesting
[3:28] <sagelap> dmick: that branch looks good
[3:28] <sagelap> although my eyes glaze over for the python bits
[3:28] <dmick> heh
[3:28] <dmick> I hear you
[3:29] <dmick> I'll let it build, and then install it and play with Warren's teuthology task against it
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[9:41] <huangjun> hi,all,another question, does ceph support uuid when create osds?
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[9:53] <lautriv> huangjun, to define the disks ?
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[10:39] <huangjun> lautriv: yes
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[10:43] <lautriv> huangjun, afaik it cares only about blockdevices handled by the scsi-layers (dev/sd*) but since uuid is lost after preparation and it creates a global FSID anyway, that is rather pointless.
[10:46] <huangjun> uhh, in some case. the disk used like /dev/sd* will change after reboot the host machine,
[10:47] <huangjun> so i think use uuid to attache a disk to osd will resolove this
[10:51] <lautriv> huangjun, if your drive-order changes, are those drives attached externally ?
[10:55] <buhrietoe> Hello. I am trying out ceph and setup 2 debian wheezy machines each serving an osd. One of the machines has the mon and mds. Upon starting the daemons for the first time, I seem to be stuck with this constantly scrolling: "2013-07-27 03:36:22.697230 7f2b4ae44700 0 -- :/13432 >> 10.1.0.4:6789/0 pipe(0x2da6a60 sd=3 :0 s=1 pgs=0 cs=0 l=1).fault". I seem to have ceph-create-keys process laying around after stoping all daemon
[10:55] <buhrietoe> s. I thought this may be an issue with insufficient entropy in /dev/random to generate keys, but generating more entropy did not help.
[10:56] <huangjun> lautriv: like that, we use the devs=/dev/sdb for osd.1 and after reboot, it changed to /dev/sdc, so what can i do in this case?
[10:56] <lautriv> huangjun, sorry i have to go, just one hint : the regular order should be persistent if your hardware and the involved modules stay unchanged. in other words not flipping slots (PCI and/or drivecase) or IRQ-lines. you may prevent change of order by hardwired irqs,modules in order (etc/modules) and udev-rules.
[10:57] <huangjun> lautriv: thanks
[11:00] <huangjun> buhrietoe: you mon daemon up?
[11:03] <buhrietoe> No it is not, it appears to be waiting for key generation: === mon.a === - Starting Ceph mon.a on ceph02... - failed: 'ulimit -n 8192; /usr/bin/ceph-mon -i a --pid-file /var/run/ceph/mon.a.pid -c /etc/ceph/ceph.conf ' - Starting ceph-create-keys on ceph02...
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[11:06] <huangjun> likes stuck in create-keys status, you should see the deploy log and have another try
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[11:10] <buhrietoe> Thanks, I'll keep poking around
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[14:06] <tomservo> Been searching... but haven't found much, curious if ceph performs well enough to support a RDMBS (PostgreSQL in particular)
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[17:49] <lxo> is there anything in ceph that ensures the timestamp update in a cephfs write takes place before a subsequent utimes? when rsyncing large old trees into a cephfs tree, I often find that some file's timestamps are current-ish, rather than old-ish. it's not for every file, too, which points to a race. no mds restarts either, not even remounts. so reordering the write-induced timestamp update past the utimes timestamp change seems to be the only possible so
[17:49] <lxo> urce of this problem, in 0.61.6 and pretty much every earlier version
[17:54] <lxo> oh, 0.61.7, actually
[18:02] <lxo> it could also be an ftruncate, that also sets mtime, that gets processed past utimes although it's called first
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[18:07] <sage> lxo: sounds like the client and mds timestamps are out o fsync
[18:07] <sage> er, clocks
[18:17] <lxo> I don't see how this could be related. if out-of-sync clocks could cause utimes() calls to be dropped, wouldn't this affect all files, rather than just a few?
[18:17] <lxo> ^sage
[18:17] <lxo> anyway, client, mds, osds and mons are all ntp-synced
[18:22] <lxo> it sounds more like a case of utimes (with old mtime) being processed before the write lock (with current mtime) is released; if I'm reading the code right, the mds will update the timestamp in this case
[18:33] <lxo> another possibility (after a quick first look at the ceph.ko code) is that a delayed writepages call updates mtime after the utimes call
[18:34] <lxo> anyway, I'm too sleepy right now to try to make sense of all this code ;-) crashing in bed shortly...
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[21:14] <lautriv> Tamil1, around ?
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[22:32] <mozg> hello guys
[22:32] <mozg> is anyone alive at this time/day?
[22:32] <mozg> i've got a question about creating a new rbd pool
[22:32] <mozg> and the placements groups
[22:32] <mozg> could some one help me please?
[22:34] <Psi-jack> You should actually ask a question.
[22:34] <Psi-jack> You may get help, but you may not. You never know till you produce a question that you actually need help with. :)
[22:36] <mozg> okay
[22:36] <mozg> thanks
[22:36] <mozg> i've got ceph with 16 osds at the moment and i've previously created 1 rbd cluster
[22:37] <mozg> i've got 1800 pgs
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[22:37] <mozg> i've meant to say 1 rbd pool
[22:37] <mozg> anyway
[22:37] <mozg> i need to create a new pool
[22:38] <mozg> i need to choose the number of placements groups for the pool
[22:38] <mozg> and I am unsure what number to choose
[22:38] <mozg> i've read the recommended number is 100 for each osd
[22:39] <mozg> so, in my case i've currently have 16, so I should have the total of around 1600 placement groups
[22:40] <mozg> as i already have 1800 placements groups for the existing pool
[22:40] <mozg> does that mean that i've ran out of placement groups
[22:40] <Psi-jack> No.
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[22:40] <Psi-jack> That just means that RBD pool is using that PG setup.You can make a new RBD pool with a completely different pg setup, IIRC.
[22:41] <mozg> so, i can create a new pool with another 1600 placement groups
[22:41] <Psi-jack> yes
[22:41] <mozg> would it not create an issue with the overall ceph cluster?
[22:42] <Psi-jack> No.
[22:42] <mozg> in terms of performance and pgs peering, etc?
[22:42] <Psi-jack> Well, I ddoubt it, anyway.
[22:43] <Psi-jack> usually the devs are more helpful here than I, but they're usually only here more on the weekdays, M-F, during USA working hours.
[22:43] <mozg> okay, thanks for your help
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