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IRC Log for 2013-07-04

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[0:03] <sagewk> mtanski: running the kenrel test suite now. if you're brave, you can try that top patch of testing-next in the meantime.
[0:03] <mtanski> Do I need all of testing-next, or can I just cherry-pick that one change
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[0:10] <sagewk> just the one patch should be ok
[0:11] <sagewk> as long as you don't use rbd on that kernel
[0:11] <mtanski> yeah, we have no use for rdb (yet)
[0:11] <saaby> guys, trying to reach support... noone answers. can some of you help?
[0:11] <paravoid> on a completely unrelated note, I've seen the 0.65 mon get stuck at 100% cpu for a while when e.g. outing an OSD
[0:11] <paravoid> then recovering after a minute or two
[0:12] <paravoid> known/fixed?
[0:20] <wschulze> saaby: we got your ticket, and working on it
[0:21] <saaby> wschulze: thanks.
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[0:22] <sjusthm> sagewk: wip-5401 looks right
[0:22] <sagewk> paravoid: maybe. next time you see it, a thr app all bt dump from gdb would be nice
[0:23] <sjusthm> sagewk: though I also don't think it's responsible for the problem
[0:23] <sagewk> sjusthm: the recovery op count patches you mean?
[0:23] <sjusthm> yes
[0:23] <sagewk> k, i'll put them in master. the other 2 are cuttlefish only.
[0:24] <sagewk> yeah
[0:27] <mtanski> I head to pull in, libceph: fix safe completion as well
[0:27] <mtanski> for it to apply cleanly
[0:27] <mtanski> building, I'll let you know what happens
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[0:29] <sagewk> sigh.. that's basically the opposite of the top patch.
[0:29] <sagewk> so,i think this is unrelated to your caps problem.
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[0:33] <mtanski> Alright, how do I debug it to figure out what went wrong / what's going wrong so I can find a fix
[0:34] <sagewk> how easy is this to trigger?
[0:36] <paravoid> works so far
[0:36] <sagewk> paravoid: cool
[0:36] <mtanski> In my case a particular file was always triggering it
[0:36] <mtanski> now ls in the parent and grandparent folder are both hanging when doing ls
[0:37] <paravoid> osds take a while to boot
[0:39] <paravoid> I'm guessing for sjust's log rewrite stuff to take effect all OSDs must be upgraded first, right?
[0:39] <mtanski> Also, is the bug tracker down now?
[0:40] <mtanski> Since it's timing out on the http request for me right now
[0:40] <dmick> mtanski: hm, does seem to be having issues, tnx, will look
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[0:41] <paravoid> 2013-07-03 22:41:23.030818 mon.0 [INF] pgmap v9505099: 16760 pgs: 15 inactive, 1942 active, 4816 active+clean, 81 active+remapped+wait_backfill, 865 active+degraded+wait_backfill, 618 active+recovery_wait, 1 active+recovering+remapped, 1 stale+active+clean, 25 active+degraded+wait_backfill+backfill_toofull, 4931 peering, 179 remapped, 6 active+remapped, 2 stale+active+degraded+wait_backfill+backfill_toofull, 1 down+peering, 158 active+degraded, 94 active+d
[0:41] <paravoid> fun
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[0:42] <paravoid> sagewk:
[0:42] <paravoid> ceph-osd.10.log:2013-07-03 22:40:54.900381 7f18f6018700 -1 osd.10 191431 heartbeat_check: no reply from osd.84 ever on either front or back, first ping sent 2013-07-03 22:40:34.389859 (cutoff 2013-07-03 22:40:34.900347)
[0:42] <paravoid> ceph-osd.10.log:2013-07-03 22:40:54.900414 7f18f6018700 -1 osd.10 191431 heartbeat_check: no reply from osd.86 ever on either front or back, first ping sent 2013-07-03 22:40:34.389859 (cutoff 2013-07-03 22:40:34.900347)
[0:43] <paravoid> ceph-osd.10.log:2013-07-03 22:40:54.900423 7f18f6018700 -1 osd.10 191431 heartbeat_check: no reply from osd.87 ever on either front or back, first ping sent 2013-07-03 22:40:34.389859 (cutoff 2013-07-03 22:40:34.900347)
[0:43] <paravoid> etc.
[0:43] <paravoid> different osds than the ones you mentioned
[0:43] <paravoid> so, not fixed
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[0:43] <sagewk> can ou dump the osdmap again?
[0:45] <paravoid> 5460-osdmap-v2
[0:45] <dmick> mtanski: back, it seems
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[0:46] <paravoid> 12 19 84 86 87 88 89 90 92 93 94 95 141
[0:47] <paravoid> hm
[0:48] <paravoid> no Address family no supported though
[0:49] <paravoid> could be completely unrelated
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[0:53] <paravoid> sagewk: no new such messages for the past 13 minutes though, things seem much better now
[0:54] <mtanski> rebooting the clients
[0:54] <sagewk> k
[0:54] <paravoid> this might have been an actual heartbeat issue
[0:54] <sagewk> :)
[0:54] <paravoid> that shouldn't have happened but oh well :)
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[1:11] <mtanski> Rebuilt kernel, reboot my clients but still seeing this issue
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[1:12] <mtanski> Task is still getting stuck in: ceph_mdsc_do_request
[1:12] <paravoid> http://p.defau.lt/?A9AScrGFacE6tDCzXVtOrA
[1:13] <paravoid> which of these states blocks I/O?
[1:13] <paravoid> I'm getting a lot of slow requests again
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[1:14] <gregaf> if they're active they won't block IO, but anything that's recovering could slow it (though it shouldn't be reporting a 30 second timeout, if you're using 4MB objects!)
[1:14] <paravoid> 30? :)
[1:14] <paravoid> 2013-07-03 23:14:30.102634 osd.14 [WRN] 29 slow requests, 3 included below; oldest blocked for > 181.145612 secs
[1:18] <gregaf> go get the slow requests from that OSD and map them onto PG states, then? :)
[1:18] <paravoid> multiple osds
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[1:24] <gregaf> yes, but you can pick one to start with and look for trends ;)
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[1:30] <mtanski> for some reason, it seams to have fix it self after waiting 30 minutes now
[1:30] <mtanski> once putting out the new client
[1:31] <mtanski> I need to head home, but I'll check up on irc and the situation later on today
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[1:46] <paravoid> ok, I'm off to bed -- happy 4th :)
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[3:33] <mormonitor> hello, i am planning to deploy a hypertable cluster and evaluating some different distributed filesystems
[3:33] <mormonitor> does anyone have experience on hypertable running over a ceph cluster?
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[9:37] <ccourtaut> morning!
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[10:47] <haomaiwa_> Hi, everyone! If Cinder and Glance use the same pool in ceph, is there exists some problems? Any feedback is appreciate!
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[13:03] <niklas> Hi. My Cluster seems not to replicate pgs. If I query one, it says it got only one OSD Up and Acting… How to I find out which secondary OSD should have the PG, and how do I go to find the Problem?
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[13:03] <niklas> The pool I looked into got a rep size of 2 configured…
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[13:10] <ofu> niklas: ceph pg dump shows you where the other copies of each pg should be
[13:12] <niklas> ofu: I can't find it in there…
[13:12] <niklas> where should it be?
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[13:14] <ofu> the first few lines tell you about all pools, their ids and their names
[13:15] <LiRul> is there any limitation or recommendation how many objects would be store in one container?
[13:15] <ofu> oh, ceph osd dump
[13:15] <ofu> find the number of your pool, then use ceph pg dump
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[13:20] <niklas> ofu ceph pg <pgno> query ?
[13:21] <niklas> "ceph pg dump" and "ceph pg <pgno> query" both only show me, that for page 10.3 osd 27 is up and acting
[13:21] <niklas> but they don't show me, which other osd should be up, so it's kinda hard to grep the logfiles…
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[13:22] <ofu> well, for my randomly picked pg 0.28 it shows 20 and 25 as up and acting
[13:23] <ofu> so the copies are on osd 20 and osd 25, just checked
[13:23] <niklas> Yep, but it seems to me, that my cluster got problems putting pgs onto their secondary osd
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[13:32] <niklas> FYI: seems to be my fault: I got all my osds on one host, so crush-map cant apply its default replication configuration
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[13:58] <soren> I'm looking at http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/#placing-different-pools-on-different-osds and I'm wondering what the motivation would be for having the primary storage on ssd's and replicas on hdd's.
[13:58] <soren> As I understand it, write()'s don't return succesfully until the replicas have been written, so what's the benefit?
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[14:13] <ofu> but reads are probably much faster
[14:13] <andreask> price may also be a motivation
[14:14] <andreask> and if you have fast journal devices in front of the hdds also writes should do fine
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[14:17] <soren> ofu: Won't ceph have to check (at least) one of the replicas to ensure the response it's giving is consistent?
[14:17] <soren> ofu: Or is it expected that the monitor knows this ahead of time?
[14:17] <tnt> I don't think ceph does that.
[14:17] <soren> Because the assummption is that the monitor would know if there were inconsistencies?
[14:17] <tnt> If the OSD reports it's good for a PG, it's assumed to be good.
[14:17] <soren> Interesting.
[14:18] <soren> Ok, that certainly explains the ssd-primary use case.
[14:18] <tnt> OSD has some internal self checks to know if it's consistent. Then there is periodic scrubbing and deep-scrubing of PG to detect inconsistencies.
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[15:32] <tnt> Mmm, backfilling seems insanely slow.
[15:32] <tnt> Network usage is like < 1 Mo/s ...
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[23:39] <unit3> Is df on a ceph fs known to have sort of crazy numbers in it? "ceph -s" shows ~2.7GB avail, but df says there's ~11GB. ;)
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