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IRC Log for 2013-03-10

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[12:37] <alternico> Hello guys
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[20:40] <Kdecherf> Question of the WE: what's happen if I shutdown all mon and mds of a cluster for ~5 minutes? (I don't care about clients IO during the outage)
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[20:46] <loicd> Kdecherf: I suspect the answer depends on the timeouts you have set in your configuration files ;-)
[20:49] <Kdecherf> loicd: I will set noout and nodown but I don't know if it's enough to keep the cluster healthy
[20:51] <loicd> Kdecherf: why exactly do you want to do this ?
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[20:53] <Kdecherf> loicd: an emergency update will be done on the network hardware of our provider which causes a network outage of 5 minutes between our 30 nodes
[20:56] <Kdecherf> and I wonder if I should stop all nodes before the outage or just block the down/out states
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[21:00] <loicd> Kdecherf: and what do you fear will happen if you just do nothing ? I.e. let ceph manage the outage and
[21:00] <loicd> get back up when possible.
[21:03] <Kdecherf> loicd: I fear that the cluster tries to rebalance all data but no osd will be available
[21:04] <loicd> it's an interesting use case :-) Who's your provider ?
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[21:10] <Kdecherf> loicd: online, a french DC but it's our first cluster (in a particular context) and it's not optimized
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[21:16] <iggy> I don't think the OSDs will try to rebalance if there aren't mons... but I won't swear to it
[21:24] <Kdecherf> Well, the best to do is just to shutdown the whole cluster?
[21:24] <Kdecherf> -to
[21:36] <nz_monkey_> iggy: Yes, and they are fine on local SAS array, its only on RBD that they exhibit that behavior
[21:41] <iggy> did you have rbd volumes connected at the same time when they were on the local array?
[21:43] <iggy> nz_monkey_: ^^
[21:43] <iggy> and if so, was there any i/o happening on the rbd volume?
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[22:02] <loicd> Kdecherf: is your primary use case RBD or RGW ?
[22:02] <Kdecherf> loicd: cephfs only
[22:03] <Kdecherf> (at this time)
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[22:13] <nz_monkey_> iggy: Sorry mate, was distracted. I have not tried this yet. Our POC cluster is down at the moment as its being upgraded to 10GE
[22:14] <iggy> it would be an interesting data point
[22:14] <iggy> if it does it even when the rbd volume isn't rootfs, it would point at librbd somehow freezing up qemu's main loop maybe
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[23:38] <jlk> hey folks - can somebody sanity-check an osd tree for me? I'm wondering why everything isn't just under the root http://pastebin.com/ufmbfvHv
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[23:41] <janos> jlk - have you added dallasrack and sanjoserack since first spinning up the cluster?
[23:41] <janos> oh wait
[23:41] <janos> dupes
[23:41] <janos> hrm
[23:42] <janos> i'd wait for an expert on this, though my inclination is to dump the crushmap and check it out
[23:42] <jlk> the osds were there with the initial build, I added the 2 racks to the crushmap a few days ago
[23:43] <jlk> I've been eyeballing the map, I think it's right...
[23:43] <janos> i haven't seen anything like that behavior before
[23:43] <janos> i'd wait for someone more knowledgable than me
[23:44] <jlk> heh np. You're at least confirming it's not an undocumented feature. ;)
[23:44] <janos> haha
[23:44] <jlk> crushmap: http://pastebin.com/M7ZCVT3b
[23:46] <janos> not seeing anything overtly wrong
[23:51] * kyann (~kyann@did75-15-88-160-187-237.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #ceph
[23:51] <kyann> hello
[23:53] <kyann> I've an issue with radosgw 0.58, the gateway crash every 5 to 10 minutes in RGWProcess::_clear
[23:53] <kyann> Here is the gist with the debug : https://gist.github.com/kYann/5130775
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