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IRC Log for 2012-12-26

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[13:03] <nerelo> http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=MRJ0GjIAOsV_TzfOTiLllQLnBdnPDFj8gXcWWyMt16jkz4rz3EUUdzs6j6FXsjB4447F-isvxjqkXd4Qey2GHw#episodio-6
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[13:48] <idnc_sk> hi
[13:48] <idnc_sk> do I have to have mds on all nodes to be able to mount cephfs
[13:48] <idnc_sk> ?
[13:49] <idnc_sk> currently mds is configured only on node 3&4
[13:49] <idnc_sk> 4x mons, 2x mds, 2x rgw, 2x osd
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[13:50] <idnc_sk> mount -t ceph ceph1:6789,ceph2:6789,ceph3:6789,ceph4:6789:/ /share/ceph/ -o name=admin,secretfile=/etc/ceph/client.admin
[13:50] <idnc_sk> mount error 2 = No such file or directory
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[13:51] <idnc_sk> I'm stuck
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[14:02] <idnc_sk> and, problem with rbd as well
[14:02] <idnc_sk> rbd map rbd-test --pool nova --secret /etc/ceph/client.admin
[14:02] <idnc_sk> rbd: add failed: (2) No such file or directory
[14:03] <idnc_sk> Linux n0 3.5.7-gentoo #9 SMP Tue Dec 11 22:40:11 CET 2012 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
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[14:03] <idnc_sk> > the client machine
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[14:26] <idnc_sk> ok, turned out to be a problem with my os
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[16:02] <janos> i have an OSD machine that i wish to add osd's to. is it a clean enough shutdown to reweight the osd's on that machine to 0, wait for redistrubution and then just shutdown ceph services on that machine?
[16:06] <noob2> i'm not sure you even have to do that
[16:06] <janos> i'm ok just emulating a failure too ;)
[16:06] <noob2> you could just shut it down, wait for the resync and then add your osd's
[16:07] <Vjarjadian> it should self heal... but i havent seen much info on shutting down ceph... how it handles shutdown could in real systems could be nice to have on the wiki
[16:08] <noob2> with my test cluster i've shutdown and let it self heal without problems. i didn't have any load on the client side going though. i don't know what they experience yet
[16:08] <janos> this is just in my house
[16:08] <Vjarjadian> noob2, how does ceph handle shutting down the entire cluster and starting it again later?
[16:08] <janos> so i'm not toooo concerned about issues
[16:09] <janos> Vjarjadian: i've done a /etc/init.d/ceph -a stop and start before. it acted fine
[16:09] <janos> .52 on fedora
[16:09] <Vjarjadian> does that shut down the entire cluster or just the node your on?
[16:09] <janos> that's for the whole cluster
[16:09] <janos> the -a means "all"
[16:09] <Vjarjadian> oh good...
[16:10] <janos> it will go through your conf and shut everything down
[16:10] <Vjarjadian> i was imagining the cluster going mad during shutdown... and moaning about losing bits of files...
[16:10] <Vjarjadian> is it as easy to restart the cluster?
[16:10] <janos> yep
[16:10] <Vjarjadian> all at once
[16:10] <janos> just change that stop to a start
[16:10] <noob2> Vjarjadian: that i have no idea about
[16:11] <noob2> i've never shut the entire thing down yet
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[17:16] <scalability-junk> hey stupid question, but is there a simple backup method for ceph stored data, be it blockstorage, or object etc.
[17:17] <Vjarjadian> i suppose a higher replication count would do it
[17:17] <scalability-junk> or is the backup the number of replicas?
[17:17] <Vjarjadian> or you mean a tape backup type thing?
[17:17] <scalability-junk> Vjarjadian, I mean a regular backup in case something with the whole cluster goes wrong.
[17:17] <scalability-junk> wrong update, any bug which says hey I put 0 bytes for every updated file etc...
[17:18] <Vjarjadian> i suppose you would have to use your VMs etc to do that
[17:19] <scalability-junk> Vjarjadian, yeah thought so, but I imagine a provider for object, blockstorage etc. would perhaps like to do weekly backups to at least ensure some sort of backup...
[17:19] <scalability-junk> or am I just wrong ?
[17:19] <scalability-junk> It's nothing I need, more an interesting point I didn't find an answer to.
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[17:20] <Vjarjadian> there could be something i havent read yet...
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[17:23] <scalability-junk> Vjarjadian, ok so usually more replicas with distinct geolocation should provide the backup.
[17:24] <Vjarjadian> theyre putting in a geo-replication feature in next release
[17:24] <Vjarjadian> according to roadmap
[17:24] <Vjarjadian> at the moment ceph won't run great over non million pound WAN
[17:24] <scalability-junk> Vjarjadian, I know ceph is using rules for replicas aka policies, is it therefore possible to have a slow backup? say offsite which gets replicas, but doesn't get read from and doesn't need to finish the right for saying ok done?
[17:24] <scalability-junk> Vjarjadian, ah kk
[17:25] * scalability-junk taking a look at the roadmap...
[17:25] <Vjarjadian> at the moment writes are done to all replicas before reporting the write complete
[17:26] <scalability-junk> Vjarjadian, ok thanks
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[17:28] <Robe> Vjarjadian: is the roadmap public?
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[17:28] <Vjarjadian> it was on a slideshow i saw...
[17:28] <Vjarjadian> don't remember the rl
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[18:25] <sagewk> good morning
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[18:32] <drokita> g'morning
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[18:35] <Vjarjadian> evening
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[18:48] <nhm> good morning all!
[18:48] <glowell> Good Morning
[18:48] <janos> morning!
[18:49] <janos> just after noon here, but good morning to you
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[21:51] <elder> sagewk, did you push a "v3.8-rc1" branch to ceph-client?
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[21:51] <elder> And if so, when?
[21:51] <sagewk> i didn't
[21:51] <sagewk> the gitbuilder automatically picks it up from upstream, though
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[21:52] <sagewk> or at least it's supposed to
[21:52] <elder> Well, that got committed a few days ago, right? It's shown in the "autobuilder" status as still building.
[21:52] <elder> And my newly-pushed branch is not there.
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[21:53] <Vjarjadian> hi elder, you one of the admins for ceph?
[21:53] <elder> What do you need Vjarjadian?
[21:54] <Vjarjadian> just havent seen many blue people online in here.
[21:55] <Vjarjadian> Ceph is on my list to test... especially once some discussion starts about the upcoming geo-replication feature :)
[21:55] <elder> I am one of the ceph developers. You'll find pretty much all of the others here as well.
[21:57] <sagewk> 31691 ? RN 4663:23 \_ scripts/kconfig/conf --oldconfig Kconfig
[21:57] <sagewk> hung build it looks like
[21:57] <elder> I'm looking at it too.
[21:57] <elder> Do you know how to restart it?
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[21:57] <sagewk> i just killed that proc
[21:57] <elder> I have some notes but I didn't capture that...
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[22:04] <elder> OK sagewk Looks like it's in an infinite loop in config.
[22:04] <sagewk> lovely
[22:04] <elder> Looks to me lke a bug in the config files.
[22:04] <elder> choice[1-3?]: Default SCTP cookie HMAC encoding
[22:05] <elder> I'll look.
[22:05] <sagewk> touch /srv/autobuild-ceph/gitbuilder.git/out/fail/<sha1> it will skip it
[22:05] <sagewk> and restart, 'restart autobuild-ceph'
[22:05] <elder> OK, thanks. First I'll see if I can get the the source of the problem.
[22:06] <sagewk> k
[22:12] <Aiken> seems everything I have read about ceph talks about scaling up but what about how small is too small to bother?
[22:13] <Aiken> I am thinking in terms of a small office with 4 - 5 machines with using ceph to agregate unused storage on those machines with replication
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[22:13] <Vjarjadian> i suppose 1 OSD would be too small :)
[22:14] <Vjarjadian> Aiken, your main problem might be that most offices use windows OS and ceph is linux based.
[22:15] * Aiken looks around and does not see anything labelled ms
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[22:16] <Aiken> all machines are linux so that is not a problem
[22:18] <elder> sagewk, the problem is in net/sctp/Kconfig, but I'm reviewing the kconfig grammar to try to figure out what's wrong...
[22:18] <elder> I don't think restarting anything will fix anything.
[22:19] <sagewk> touching the sha1 will make gitbuilder skip it, though.. that'll avoid the issue for now
[22:19] <sagewk> assuming it gets fixed upstream before -rc2
[22:19] <elder> Oh yeah.
[22:23] <elder> sage, and you mean "restart autobuild-ceph" as in the command named "restart"? I've never used it that way and don't want to without checking.
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[22:23] <elder> Sorry, sagewk
[22:23] <sagewk> rm
[22:23] <sagewk> yeah
[22:23] <elder> OK. Here goes nothing.
[22:23] <sagewk> that's an upstart-ism
[22:23] <elder> That was easy.
[22:23] <elder> Scary for an old-timer though.
[22:24] <elder> However the browser interface hasn't worked since you killed that process.
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[22:30] <nhm> well, switched from gnome fallback to cinnamon. After some tweaks it looks like it will serve reasonably well.
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