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IRC Log for 2011-07-14

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[0:20] <sagewk> let's try to keep the codingstyle discussion out of weeds
[0:21] <cmccabe> heh
[0:23] <cmccabe> so far, there are no comparisons with hitler, automobile analogies, or frothy rants
[0:23] <cmccabe> so I think it hasn't quite hit the weeds yet :)
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[0:44] <cmccabe> I thought this was very nice: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fngkomobalnoppphmglonpdgoonpdafh#
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[1:22] <sagewk> cmccabe: yay for -with-build-tests
[1:23] <sagewk> cmccabe: nice, they have stl and python too
[1:44] <cmccabe> sagewk: I didn't implement --with-build-tests per se
[1:44] <cmccabe> sagewk: it has to be set with an env var for now
[1:44] <sagewk> yeah as long as it doesn't build :)
[1:44] <cmccabe> sagewk: I guess I should do it for real and have --with-build-tests
[1:44] <sagewk> might as well?
[1:45] <cmccabe> sagewk: but I'm afraid of the autofoo
[1:45] <cmccabe> sagewk: well, I'll spend just a minute... can't be *that* hard?
[1:45] <sagewk> famous last words
[1:45] <cmccabe> sagewk: with regard to the man-pages thing, I particularly like it because the Ubuntu/debian man pages seem to be incomplete sometimes
[1:46] <cmccabe> sagewk: I try to install all the man pages but I always seem to fail
[1:46] <cmccabe> sagewk: recently I found out that the debian people objected to the license of some man pages
[1:47] <cmccabe> sagewk: like the gcc man pages ended up in "non-free" because the debian guys didn't like the license (of the man pages)... which... is weird
[1:47] <sagewk> 1257 ready to merge?
[1:47] <cmccabe> yeah
[1:48] <cmccabe> I don't think that branch really changes anything outside test/... oh, except for
[1:49] <cmccabe> sagewk: 54ca67bbfe0acb8079f8df26c2470d306c1e09fb
[1:49] <cmccabe> but I think that should be fine
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[11:14] <lxo> any recommendations as to how to avoid sync() deadlocks when a ceph client is also an osd and a mon? I think that's what's been killing me since I started playing with ceph.
[11:15] <lxo> consider that the mds will only advance (or recover) after the mon completes a sync(), but the client had written data to the mounted ceph filesystem which will only get sync()ed once the mds recovers
[11:15] <lxo> -> deadlock
[11:17] <lxo> it doesn't help that in such scenarios mon0 won't die, even with kill -9, (one of its threads is blocked on a sync), and other mons won't take over (no time-outs?), so I have to manually restart them so that they initiate a new election and get going again
[11:20] <lxo> I'm considering implementing a fake syncfs() that tries the btrfs ioctl before falling back onto sync (wasn't there code to do just that a while ago?), upgrading to libc/kernel that has syncfs (which ones do?), or moving client, osd and/or mon to virtual machines
[11:25] <lxo> advice or other suggestions would be appreciated
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[12:09] <lxo> answering myself, AFAICT Linux 2.6.39 and glibc 2.14 are the ones that introduce syncfs()
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[18:01] <u3q> oh man
[18:01] <u3q> ceph rules
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[18:09] <greglap> u3q: glad you like it :)
[18:10] <u3q> ya its one of those 'wish this was created 20 years ago so i didnt have to suffer the psychological trauma NFS has caused me'
[18:10] <u3q> hehe
[18:14] <u3q> i am building my mac pro on this SSD drive
[18:14] <u3q> it is not even as fast as my giant ceph array
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